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The Packing Tee represents the next generation of concealed carry t-shirt. It’s been built from the ground up to solve the issues that face the CCW licensee looking for a good way to carry their equipment.
One of the first things that you notice when you examine one, is that the holster is modular and attached with industrial strength hook and loop material (Velcro). Turn the shirt inside out, and you see the reinforcements that have been added to the shirt to make sure that your weapon stays where you want it.
There are reinforcements around the side of the shirt, over the shoulder and around the arm holes, and across the back. Basically, the manufacturer made a cloth shoulder holster, and then sewed it into the inside of the shirt.
The shirt itself is 100% cotton, pre-shrunk. This means that it’s not only comfortable and easy to clean, but it “looks normal”. There are a number of concealed carry t-shirts out there that have rather “distinctive” looks to them, looks that can give you away to people who know what to look for. Why on earth do you want to telegraph your advantage away like that?
One of the best features of this holster system is the modular holsters themselves… and not just because you can easily switch out between the various holsters to customize your carry to what you need to do -now-. The fact that it’s velcro’ed to the shirt gives you a lot of options in the adjustment department. You can move the holster up, down, sideways, or just give it a small cant forward or backward, whatever it takes to give you that “sweet spot” for carry comfort that makes all the difference in the world in whether or not a holster system “works” for you.
Lets do some Q&A on these shirts now….
[Q] Are there sleeved versions of these shirts, or all they all sleeveless?
[A] They are all sleeveless. If there were sleeves on the shirts, there would be a possibility of getting your weapon caught in the “dangling sleeve” during a draw, and that would not be a good thing for you.
[A] However, the women’s style shirts do have “cap sleeves” on them. See the images on the order form for more info.
[Q] What colors are they available in?
[A] Black and white only. Previously, Women’s shirts had only been in white, but black ones are now available.
[Q] Is there a weight limit on the gun carried?
[A] Older technology shirts had strict weight limits on the weapon to be carried. Because of the way these shirts are made, with the reinforcements on them, they can carry significantly more weight on them. As a practical matter, though, the heavier the gun (and the larger it is), the more difficult it becomes to hide the weapon for long periods of time. Let your ability to conceal the weapon be more of the determining factor than what the sheer ability of the shirt is to carry weight, because the shirts ability to carry weight is far in excess of any reasonable concealed carry weapon. The manufacturer has told me that they claim a 10 pound per side weight limitation. To put that in perspective, a fully loaded Desert Eagle is only 8.5 pounds.
[Q] How do I clean these shirts?
[A] Official answer: Remove the holster patches before washing, then just wash them as you would do your regular t-shirts. If you mistakenly forget to remove the patches, they will not be ruined, but they will curl up on the edges some. If the curling becomes too severe, remember you can get new ones for $6.00 each.
[A] Unofficial answer: You can wash and dry them with the patches in place. However, once you do this, the patches (which are made out of industrial strength velcro) will NOT easily remove from the shirt. They will work just fine, but be sure that you have the patches “where you want them” before doing this, because you may not be able to adjust them afterwards.
[Q] What is the life expectancy on these shirts?
[A] This is a piece of clothing, and underwear at that. Given that, it’s not going to last forever. The manufacturer has estimated that you should be able to get two years out of them under “normal use”.
[Q] Do I need to wear an over shirt with this?
[A] Only if you feel the need to conceal the weapon. Seriously, though, pretty much every method of concealment depends at least in part on “cover garments”… this one is no different.
[Q] Does the shirt need to be tight on me?
[A] Previous designs of shirts needed a good amount of “snug fit” to keep the weapon in the place where it’s supposed to be. Because of the reinforcement built into this shirt, it doesn’t need to be worn as tightly as other similar products, but you do not want to wear it loose, either. Wearing it loosely will cause the weapon to sag, hang lower than normal, and bounce off your ribcage in a most annoying manner, so wearing the shirt “snug” is still a good idea.
[Q] I normally wear a size (fill in the blank), what should I wear here?
[A] If you wear an XL, then get an XL sized Packin’ Tee. There is no need to “guesstimate down” the size with this shirt. These were built from the ground up as concealment shirts, and they were built knowing that they needed to be snug. So, if you normally wear, say, and XL for comfort, then pick up an XL here as well, and it will fit on you snugly.
[Q] I tend to wear two different sizes, depending on the cut. What should I wear here?
[A] If, for example, you wear both XL and 2X depending on the cut, then you should probably get a 2X shirt. Remember, these are built to be snug, and if you get a size too small, it’s – really- going to be a size too small! 🙂
[Q] Is this shirt hot to wear?
[A] Being in the midwest, I get this question a lot. The answer is “it’s no hotter than any other 100 percent cotton t-shirt”. If you can live with a t-shirt on, this will be no different to you.
[Q] Will my gun get rusty from my sweat?
[A] Well, I can’t answer to the rust resistance of your gun, but I can tell you this… one of the reinforcement layers that makes this shirt so suited for this job, is a thin layer of plastic that helps keeps any moisture from getting from you to your gun. Beyond that, if you tend to go swimming in salt-water, perhaps you should think about duracoating your gun. 🙂
[Q] How do I draw my weapon from this holster?
[A] The Packin’ Tee is a “cross draw” style holster, traditionally one of the easiest draw motions there is. If you have a button down shirt, just reach inside and grab the weapon. If you have a non-button down (pullover) type shirt, just grab the shirt bottom nearest the gun, and pull the shirt over the top of the weapon, then go ahead and grab your gun. If you see me at a gun show sometime, ask me to show you the “boost-assist” method of drawing the gun through the neckline of almost any shirt. I would explain it, but it’s far easier to show you than to try to tell you about it. 🙂
[Q] Do these shirts come in “big and tall” sizes?
[A] Yes and sort of. Yes, in that they currently come in 2x, 3x, and 4x shirts. There are no specific “tall” versions, but these shirts were made longer than most concealment shirts, and as a result, most people will find the length to be fine. The larger the shirt, the longer they are, so be sure to check them out, you will probably be pleasantly surprised.
[Q] Can I get one of these shirts configured to carry two guns?
[A] One of the really nice things about this design is that you can easily configure it to whatever you need to go. It comes standard with both left and right mountings. Possible setups include:
One gun, no other rigging
Two guns, no other rigging
One gun, plus magazine carrier
One gun, plus hidden pocket
Bear in mind that you can buy the equipment to run any and all of these options, but you can only run the above options at any given time. The mag carrier takes the place of the second gun, for example.
[Q] How many different holsters are there available for the Packin’ Tee?
[A] There are currently two, “large” and “small”. To make life easier for everyone involved, I’m selling these holsters as a set, so no matter what holster you need now (or later!), you will be set to go. To determine which one you need for your particular gun, just try them out and see which one fits better, but in case you want to take a shortcut, here’s a cheat sheet for you:
Any 1911 Pistol – large holster
AMT Backup .380 – small holster
AMT Backup .45 – large holster
AMT Crusader Combat – large holster
Astra .357 Revolver – large holster
Astra A-80/A-90/A-100 – large holster
Autauga Arms MK II – small holster
Beretta 70 – small holster
Beretta 84 – large holster
Beretta 92, 96 – large holster
Beretta 950 – small holster
Beretta 9000, 9000s – large holster
Beretta 8000, 8040, 8045 – large holster
Beretta Cougar – large holster
Beretta PX4 (any size) – large holster
Beretta Nano 9mm – small holster
Beretta Tomcat, Bobcat, 21a – small holster
Bersa Firestorm and Firestorm Pro – large holster
Bersa Thunder .380 – small holster
Bersa Thunder 9 – large holster
Bersa Thunder Ultra Compact 45 – large holster
Bersa BP9CC – large holster
Boberg 9mm – try both
Bond Arms Derringers – large holster
Browning BDA .380 – large holster
Browning Hi-Power – large holster
Bul Ltd Cherokee Compact – large holster
Bul M5 Government / M5 Carry / Ultra X – large holster
Charter Arms Bulldog .44 – large holster
Charter Arms Pathfinder or Undercover – large holster
Charter Arms Patriot .357 6-shot – large holster
Charter Arms Southpaw – large holster
Charter Arms Ultra Lite – large holster
Chiappa Rhino .357 Revolver – large holster
Cobra Auto .380 – large holster
Cobra .38 Derringer – small holster
Colt Combat Commander – large holster
Colt Defender 3″ 1911 – large holster
Any 1911 Pistol – large holster
Colt Detective Special – large holster
Colt Double Eagle – large holster
Colt Government .380, Mustang, or Pony – small holster
CZ 75B – large holster
CZ 75 SP-01 – large holster
CZ 75 P07 Duty – large holster
CZ 2075 RAMI – large holster
Daewoo Auto – large holster
Desert Eagle Baby Eagle – large holster
Diamondback .380 – small holster
Diamondback 9mm – try both
EAA EA380 – small holster
EAA EZ9 – large holster
EAA Witness (any) – large holster
FEG AP7 – small holster
FEG P9R – large holster
FEG PA-63 – small holster
Firestorm (any) – large holster
FN Forty-Nine, FN9, FN40 – large holster
Glock (any) – large holster
Glock 42 / 43 – large holster
Hellcat .380 – small holster
Helwin Brigadier – large holster
Hipoint .380, 9mm, .40SW, .45 – large holster
HK 45 – large holster
HK P7, P7M8, P7M10, P7M13 – large holster
HK USP (any) – large holster
HK P2000 (any) – large holster
HK P30, P30L – large holster
Herstal 5.7 – large holster
IMI Desert Eagle “Baby Eagle” – large holster
IMI Micro Desert Eagle .380 – small holster
J-Frame Revolver (any) – large holster
Jerico – large holster
Jennings J22 – small holster
Jennings .380 – small holster
Jiminez .22 – small holster
Jiminez JA380 – small holster
Jiminez JA9 – large holster
K-Frame Revolver – large holster
Kahr .380 – small holster
Kahr 9mm / .40SW / .45ACP – large holster
Kel-Tec P11 – large holster
Kel-Tec P32 – small holster
Kel-Tec P3AT – small holster
Kel-Tec PF9 – small holster
Kel-Tec PMR-30 – large holster
Kimber (any 1911) – large holster
Kimber Micro Carry .380 – small holster
Kimber Solo 9mm – small holster
Makarov – small holster
NAA Guardian .32/.380 – small holster
NAA .22 Revolvers (any) – no good match, sorry
N-Frame Revolvers – large holster, barrel no longer than 4″ please. After 4″, “your mileage may vary”.
Para Ordnance pistols – large holster for any 1911 variant
Phoenix HP .22 – small holster
Remington R51 – large holster
Remington RM380 – small holster
Rock Island Armory Armscor 9mm MAPP1 – large holster
Rohrbaugh 380 – small holster
Rohrbaugh R9 – small holster
Rossi R351 – large holster
Ruger American – large holster
Ruger LCP .380 – small holster
Ruger LC380 – large holster
Ruger LC9 – large holster
Ruger LCR and variants – large holster
Ruger SP101 – large holster
Ruger P345 – large holster
Ruger P85, P89, P89DC – large holster
Ruger P90, P90DC, P91 – large holster
Ruger P93, P95, P94, P97 – large holster
Ruger SR9 & SR9C – large holster
Ruger SR40 & SR40C – large holster
Ruger SR45 – large holster
S&W J-Frame (any) – large holster
S&W Bodyguard .38 Revolver – large holster
S&W Bodyguard .380 Auto – small holster
S&W Chiefs Special, 317, airlite, 36, 37, 49, 442-1, 60, 638-2, 640, 649, 642-1 Lady Smith, 650, 940,
Airweight, Bodyguard – large holster
S&W 1006, 4506, 645 – large holster
S&W 1026, 1076, 4576 – large holster
S&W 1086, 4586 – large holster
S&W 39, 59, 439, 459, 639, 659, 3904, 5904, 5906 – large holster
S&W SC Commander – large holster
S&W 1911 – large holster
S&W 3913 round trigger and LadySmith – large holster
S&W 3913 Square Trigger, 6904 6906 square trigger – large holster
S&W 3913 TSW – large holster
S&W 3953, 6904, 6906 round trigger – large holster
S&W 4006, 4026, 4043, 4046, 410, 411, 5943, 5946 round trigger, 909, 910, 915 – large holster
S&W 4006 Bobbed, 5926 – large holster
S&W 4006 TSW, 5906 TSW – large holster
S&W 4013 TSW, 4013 – large holster
S&W 4516-1, 457 – large holster
S&W 4056 TSW, 4053 TSW – large holster
S&W 4513 TSW, 4553 TSW – large holster
S&W 4556 – large holster
S&W 4563 TSW – large holster
S&W 4566 round trigger – large holster
S&W 469, 669, square trigger – large holster
S&W 5944, 5946 square trigger – large holster
S&W 908 – large holster
S&W 99, 99-45, compact – large holster
S&W CS9, CS40, CS45 – large holster
S&W M&P9, M&P40, M&P45, M&P9C, M&P40C – large holster
S&W Sigma .380 – large holster
S&W Sigma 9F, 40F, SW9M – large holster
S&W Sigma Compact 40C, 40V, 9C, 9V – large holster
S&W SD9 SD40 – large holster
S&W Bodyguard .380 – small holster
SCCY 9mm – large holster
Seecamp – small holster
Sig Sauer GSR 1911 – large holster
Sig Sauer P239 – large holster
Sig Sauer P220, P226, P226R, P220R – large holster
Sig Sauer P225, P228, P229, P229R, P229R DAK, P226R DAK – large holster
Sig Sauer P230, P232 – small holster
Sig Sauer P238 – small holster
Sig Sauer P245 – large holster
Sig Sauer P250 – large holster
Sig Sauer P938 – small holster
Skyy 9mm – large holster
Springfield Armory XD, XD 40-4, XD 40-5, 45-4, 45-5, XD-M, Sub Compact – large holster
Springfield Armory XDs .45 single stack – large holster
Springfield Armory 1911 GI 4″, 1911 GI 5″, Micro Compact GI 3″ – large holster
Springfield Armory 1911 Rails “Operator” – large holster
Springfield Armory P9C – large holster
Star Firestar – large holster
Steyr pistols (all known in 9mm / .40 / .45) – large holster
Stoeger 8000 Cougar – large holster
Taurus 24/7 – large holster
Taurus 85 – large holster
Taurus OSS – large holster
Taurus Judge Public Defender – large holster. Older versions of the holster needed a slight mod, new ones are just fine right from the bag.
Taurus Judge Public Defender Polymer version – I haven’t had a chance to test fit one of these, but my guess it should be fine.
Taurus Judge (any larger sizing than Public Defender) – No, Not Gonna Happen. Incapital letters. 🙂 The shape of the gun will not safely work with these holsters. Do not try this at home. Or anywhere else for that matter.
Taurus PT22 – small holster
Taurus PT908, PT945, PT99, PT100, PT101 – large holster
Taurus PT111, PT145, Millennium Pro – large holster
Taurus PT145 with Rails – large holster
Taurus PT709 “Slim” – large holster
Taurus PT738 – small holster
Taurus PT740 “Slim” – large holster
Taurus PT908 – large holster
Taurus PT909 – large holster
Taurus PT911 – large holster
Taurus PT945 – large holster
Walther CCP – large holster
Walther PPK, PPK/s – Small holster
Walther PPS – large holster
Walther PPQ – large holster
Walther PPX – large holster
Walther P99, P99C – large holster
Walther P22 – large holster
Walther PK380 – large holster
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